{"id":358,"date":"2017-07-18T20:02:28","date_gmt":"2017-07-18T20:02:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/machine-vision-solutions\/?p=358"},"modified":"2023-03-21T18:39:10","modified_gmt":"2023-03-21T22:39:10","slug":"considerations-in-selecting-a-lens-for-a-large-format-camera-sensor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/machine-vision-solutions\/2017\/07\/considerations-in-selecting-a-lens-for-a-large-format-camera-sensor.html","title":{"rendered":"Considerations in selecting a lens for a large format camera sensor"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/machine-vision-solutions\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/Crowley-CMOSIS-71MP-288x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"244\" height=\"254\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/machine-vision-solutions\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/Crowley-CMOSIS-71MP-288x300.jpg 288w, https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/machine-vision-solutions\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/Crowley-CMOSIS-71MP.jpg 448w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 244px) 100vw, 244px\" \/><\/strong>For most cameras in the automated imaging marketplace, the sensor sizes are 1\u201d and less. (1&#8243;\u00a0 sensors have 16mm image circle\/diameters)<\/p>\n<p>Note the size in inches and the image circle size in millimeters do NOT match!\u00a0 1\u201d does not convert to 16mm!.\u00a0 But that is a topic for another blog post!)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/cameras\/industrial-cameras.php\" target=\"_parent\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Industrial cameras<\/span><\/a> with C\/CS mount sensors normally range from \u00bc\u201d to 4\/3\u201d ( up to 22mm image circle, which is the largest a C mount is by definition).<\/p>\n<p>However, there are many cameras that have sensors larger than this, with many being a full 35mm sensor.\u00a0 These sensors typically require larger F or EF mounts as seen in the picture above.<\/p>\n<h1><a href=\"https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/lens\/family\/Kowa-F-mount-and-Line-Scan-Lens\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Click here for F-mount lenses from Kowa<\/strong><\/span><\/a><\/h1>\n<h1><a href=\"https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/lens\/family\/Schneider-Optics-Xenon-Emerald-43-point-3mm-F-mount-Large-Format-Lenses\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Click here for F-mount lenses from Schneider<\/strong><\/span><\/a><\/h1>\n<h1><strong><em>The question becomes, how do you find a suitable lens for these cameras?<\/em><\/strong><\/h1>\n<p><strong><u>First, let address the Issues with F mount lenses<\/u><\/strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-367 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/machine-vision-solutions\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/Schneider-F-mount-lenses-187x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"187\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/machine-vision-solutions\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/Schneider-F-mount-lenses-187x300.jpg 187w, https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/machine-vision-solutions\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/Schneider-F-mount-lenses.jpg 216w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 187px) 100vw, 187px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The mount most commonly used by camera vendors for sensors larger than C mount are F mounts.\u00a0 F mounts are most popular mount for SLR cameras, designed by Nikon about 1960. <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Nikon_F-mount\">https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Nikon_F-mount<\/a><\/p>\n<p>F mount lenses for commercial and consumer\/prosumer cameras are excellent optically and priced well but there are several issues you need to consider with these lenses for automated imaging applications.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>First, F mount lenses are bayonet, not screw mount. That means they are not as secure as C mount, and therefore, much more prone to vibration, or even coming lose.<\/li>\n<li>F mount lenses for the consumer\/prosumer market are designed to take fantastic color pictures. To do this, the lens coatings are optimized for color. This can affect mono images.<\/li>\n<li>Consumers want their cameras to be light, so the F mount lenses are made with as much plastic as possible. This is not great for industrial applications<\/li>\n<li>These lenses are designed for automatic focus and exposure and have controls for that in the lens itself.<\/li>\n<li>Finally, the last issue is that many of these lenses are designed for the automated controls with prosumer cameras, autofocus and autoexposure.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>If you can find an all metal manual F mount lens from 20 to 30 years ago, it would be great for an industrial application!\u00a0 If not, we suggest you turn to one of the companies that make F mount lenses <em>specifically<\/em> for this market. The major vendors are<strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/lens\/schneider-optics-lens.html\" target=\"_parent\" rel=\"noopener\">Schneider,<\/a> <\/span><\/strong>Edmund Optics, and <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/lens\/kowa-lens.html\" target=\"_parent\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Kowa<\/strong><\/a>.<\/span>\u00a0<\/span> All have a series of F mount lenses that are much more rugged than a prosumer F mount lens, and also don\u2019t have the extra controls for automatic focus\/iris.\u00a0 They have lock screws as well to hold their settings.\u00a0 The major limitation to these lenses are that they cost more than prosumer lenses, and are in just a small range of focal lengths.<\/p>\n<h1><a href=\"https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/contact.html\" target=\"_parent\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Contact us for further specifications and pricing<\/strong><\/span><\/a><\/h1>\n<p><strong><u>EF Lenses<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Since many of the new large format lenses can be controlled electronically via <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-368 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/machine-vision-solutions\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/Allied-Vision-GT1930-camera.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"238\" height=\"587\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/machine-vision-solutions\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/Allied-Vision-GT1930-camera.jpg 238w, https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/machine-vision-solutions\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/Allied-Vision-GT1930-camera-122x300.jpg 122w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 238px) 100vw, 238px\" \/>the camera, the automated imaging industry has created several products to use these lenses. The solutions from Birger Engineering, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.birger.com\">www.birger.com<\/a> are straightforward to use. They make a mount that attaches to the\u00a0 camera and allows for the use of EF mount lenses.\u00a0 Attached to their mount are connections to drive the lenses, via serial commands with their SW.\u00a0 Several camera manufacturers have built cameras with EF mounts as part of the camera.\u00a0 This is an especially nice solution since there are no wires hanging out for control, and the lens is controlled directly from the camera\u2019s SDK.<\/p>\n<p>This provides a high level overview of the considerations in selecting a lens and size for large format camera sensors.\u00a0 1st Vision has extensive knowledge with lenses and cameras and will help you in the selection process.<\/p>\n<h1><a href=\"https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/contact.html\" target=\"_parent\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong>Please contact us and discuss your application with our sales engineer!\u00a0<\/strong><\/span><\/a><\/h1>\n<p><strong>Related Blog posts:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/machine-vision-solutions\/2015\/06\/canon-ef-mount-integrated-into-avts.html\" rel=\"noopener\">Canon EF mount integrated into Allied Visions GT1930L<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/machine-vision-solutions\/2015\/09\/imaging-basics-calculating-lens-focal.html\" rel=\"noopener\">Imaging Basics &#8211; Calculating lens focal lengths<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/machine-vision-solutions\/2015\/08\/not-all-lenses-are-created-equal-mtf.html\" rel=\"noopener\">Not all lenses are created equal!<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For most cameras in the automated imaging marketplace, the sensor sizes are 1\u201d and less. (1&#8243;\u00a0 sensors have 16mm image circle\/diameters) Note the size in inches and the image circle size in millimeters do NOT match!\u00a0 1\u201d does not convert to 16mm!.\u00a0 But that is a topic for another blog post!) Industrial cameras with C\/CS &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.1stvision.com\/machine-vision-solutions\/2017\/07\/considerations-in-selecting-a-lens-for-a-large-format-camera-sensor.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Considerations in selecting a lens for a large format camera sensor&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":427,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[8,51,61],"tags":[220,225,229,223,222,226,227,224,228],"class_list":["post-358","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-cameras","category-lenses","category-tutorial","tag-1stvision_","tag-machinevision","tag-edmund-optics","tag-ef-mount","tag-f-mount","tag-industrial-imaging","tag-kowa","tag-lenses","tag-schneider"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>How to Select a Lens with a Large Format Camera Sensor Size<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"There are several factors to consider when selecting a lens with a large format camera sensor size. 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